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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:41 pm 
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HI GUYS I NEED SOME MONDIAL OR BORGO PISTONS FOR MY 2LT SPIDER IT HAS FLAT TOP PISTONS IN THERE CAN ANYONE TELL ME WERE I CAN GET THESE OTHER PISTONS FROM SO I CAN RAISE THE COMPRESION THANKS


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:52 pm 
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Seems easiest (and no dearer) these days to just get forgies (edit - especially if you want something specific or fancy)

Either way contact Fiatorque - I'm sure they can help you.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:16 am 
Does every for sale thread need a "call fiatorque" reply? Maybe there could be a banner advertisement paid for by fiatorque to cover the ISP fees? I'm sure the business they receive from this site would more than cover it.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:04 am 
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70s Guitars:

Firstly, where in the world are you located? Fiatorque is naturally the right answer for every single Fiat requirement in Australia (whether it be for an argon filled windscreen or an emergency fan-belt repair if you're stuck in the middle of the Nullabor), however there may be somewhere nearer you - although you would miss out on the awesome guys at Fiatorque if you went elsewhere...

An 84.6mm Mondial High Compression piston to suit a 1600 is going to perform differently ( :bomb: ) to a 2000 High Compression piston ( :roll: ) in your engine - depending upon what else is done to it. If you'd like some ideas in selection why not let us know:

What Compression Ratio are you aiming for?
What head are you using?
Has the head been shaved/ported/polished?
What camshafts are you using?
What RON fuel is available to you?
What ignition system are you running?

Just a thought.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:51 am 
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shoota wrote:
Does every for sale thread need a "call fiatorque" reply? Maybe there could be a banner advertisement paid for by fiatorque to cover the ISP fees? I'm sure the business they receive from this site would more than cover it.


Get over yourself Shoota - people ask "I wonder where I can get parts for my Fiat" and someone responds back with the name of a Fiat speciallist and you get the huffs? (BTW - the other thread that you are referring to yesterday I simply wrote "have you checked with a Fiat specialist" (no names used) because I knew I would offend someone in the "anti-Fiatorque" brigade).

Maybe YOU would like to sponsor this forum so that you can better control its content? - or at the very least in future answer every single "wanted" advertisement that someone posts here with your encyclopedic knowledge of where to get Fiat parts without using the largest Fiat specialist in the country. :?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:19 am 
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Why are you specifically requesting Mondial pistons?

Is your 2000 spyder carb or FI?

How much static CR do you think that you want? and how did you arrive at this decison?

Really to make an informed decision, you need to measure the piston that came out of your engine, as different compression heights and valve cutout depths can make two pistons that "LOOK" the same to be very different when installed in an engine.

A set of 8mm domed pistons from a 105ritmo/lancia 1600 will give you over 11:1 ... is this what your looking for? or do you just want to raise the static CR up to Euro spec ...

Late 131 superbrava's here in Australia still had flat top pistons, but have a 9.35:1 static CR, due to the fact the pistons come all the way to the top of the block....

A US spec spyder is more like 8.5:1...and again has flat top pistons... but they don't come all the way to the top of the bore, and have much larger valve flycuts than the previously mentioned 131S/B pistons

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:25 pm 
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Hi steve I'm also in Perth can u give us a call I've just bought the spider and I think you have worked on it it's dark blue need your advice thanks sonny 0422321845


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:20 pm 
david_dinogt4 wrote:
Seems easiest (and no dearer) these days to just get forgies (edit - especially if you want something specific or fancy)

Either way contact Fiatorque - I'm sure they can help you.


What do you call this then? Bad eyesight is common among Ferrari drivers. Though completely avoidable. I am certainly not anti Fiatorque. I am definately Pro Turbo124. I just dont think that the first reply in every Thread should be to direct people to one particular business. There are a number of Fiat specialists in Australia. They might be the biggest. Does that mean that you recommend everybody should buy their groceries from Coles, their fuel from BP, Internet from Telstra and Butt plugs from Adultshop? The great thing about other auto forums im on is the trading between its members. It means they can earn a little cash to spend on thir own cars. At the rate we are going we will be offloading our parts for free to "Fiat Specialists" around the country. Who will then sell them back to us.


Sorry to turn your thread into an argumment 70sguitars. I am a guitar freak. I have an Epiphone Les Paul. I cant play it though i am learning. If you have a collection i would love to see it. I love anything guitar. And remember there are Fiat Specialist all over the world and a few right here in Perth with a great amount of knowledge. Pm me or Adam if you want some numbers.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:16 pm 
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shoota wrote:
Bad eyesight is common among Ferrari drivers. Though completely avoidable.


ummm - I was actually referring to your gross generalisation:
shoota wrote:
Does every for sale thread need a
. Notice the word "every" that you used? That implies greater than the singular. So the statement is either innaccurate, or a generalisation. I'll let you pick. And thanks for commenting on my eyesight. Doing so made you no better than the kids that called me "four eyes" at school. Good work lightweight.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:04 pm 
I was implying that most Ferrari drivers are W@nker$. When i have time i will go through recent threads and count how many direct people to Fiatorque. Then i will work out the percentage for you.
david_dinogt4 wrote:


david_dinogt4 wrote:
Either way contact Fiatorque - I'm sure they can help you.

(BTW - the other thread that you are referring to yesterday I simply wrote "have you checked with a Fiat specialist" (no names used) because I knew I would offend someone in the "anti-Fiatorque" brigade).


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:23 pm 
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shoota wrote:
I was implying that most Ferrari drivers are W@nker$.


Yeah and thats an even MORE stupid thing to say. And an even BIGGER generalisation. :? Tell me shoota - how many Ferrari drivers do you actually know? And how many of them are wankers? Maybe you could do your % thing on that and post it up as "Shoota Gospel".

I know, you wouldn't happen to be the yobbo hanging out the window of a beaten up commodore that called me a wanker when I was sitting stopped in traffic by any chance? No? Well you showed exactly the same bogan dropkick tendancies he did - except you typed it instead of whistling it out of missing front teeth like he did....

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:38 pm 
Thats why i said most. How many politicians do you know and how many do you think are W@nker$? To spend half a million on a car that does 1000km a year what else would you call them? I dont drive a commodore, but i wish i still had my black vh sle or my LTD. At least people are happy to trade parts. Gotta go to work now. Just in case you think i have run away.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:51 pm 
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Someone is a wanker because they spend $500k on a car to drive 1000km a year? Sounds more like an enthusiast to me. Admittedly one that might have more money than you or I do (overlooking the fact that the majority of Ferrari's current market values wouldn't be $500k) - but a wanker because they spent their own coin on something that makes them happy?

Google "generalisation" Shoota. Your latest posts are loaded with them and they are bordering on offensive. Perhaps you should be back in a commodore or a falcon? I say that because I think all Calais and LTD owners are f&*kwits. See - thats both a generalisation, and sarcasm. Look that one up too while you are there.

And no I don't think you have run away. There's other things that I think though - including that despite the fact that you took so much offence I actually pointed 70sguitars in the direction of some pistons, which is more than you can say.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:32 pm 
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Auto Italia - Morley (Mario and Vince)
Ciliberti Motors - Osborne Park (Daniel)
Lucente Motors - Morley (Tony)
Fiatorque - Granville, Victoria (Ross and Jeremy)

Deal with Steve C by all means, but here are three companies in Perth that are open from Monday to Saturday (I think Tony is operating full time again!) and may even have a good used set of pistons for you.

Hmm, maybe my signature should be: I'm not anti-anyone, I'm just the Devil's Advocate. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:37 pm 
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Wow ... this is a thread terrorist hijack ... settle guys.

I've sold 70's guitars some Kolben Schmidt 10563 pistons (72/74 124 coupe 1800) 5.2mm dome in 84.6 oversize like he wanted ...

Now all he needs is a regata100s head to complement the abarth 068 cams / vernier cam gears and 44IDFs he has for his build...

So the forum does work to put enthusiasts in touch with each other and move parts that are surplus to requirements... happy shoota :)

70'sguitars ... the thread about porting I mentioned during our 'phone conversation is here...

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2849&hilit=porting

it explains why the 100s head is IMO the best starting point for a performance build...

more general porting / head flow info (about sohc - but the ideas apply to the dohc) can be found in the X19 section too.

Adam, you left out my Dad, Cecchele Motors in Northbridge, definitely the largest stock of Fiat parts in WA if not Australia, but he's a little difficult to deal with, and I can say that because I'm his son.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:21 am 
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fiatfactory wrote:
Adam, you left out my Dad, Cecchele Motors in Northbridge, definitely the largest stock of Fiat parts in WA if not Australia, but he's a little difficult to deal with, and I can say that because I'm his son.


Sorry Steve - no offence intended I just thought that he had closed. Evidently not!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:24 am 
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david_dinogt4 wrote:
I know, you wouldn't happen to be the yobbo hanging out the window of a beaten up commodore that called me a wanker when I was sitting stopped in traffic by any chance?


Sorry Dave, my bad. :oops:


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Sorry 70sGuitars.

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